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Re : Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #30 le: 19 novembre 2011 à 15:01:25 »
Autonomie 123 miles soit 197 km,

J'ai 70 km a/r quotidien et mon épouse prends le RER.

Je verrais bien dans mon garage :
- une Jazz EV pour la semaine
- une Accord / CR-V essence pour vacances WE  :)

Très bien pour moi aussi.  :)
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Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #31 le: 19 novembre 2011 à 15:13:26 »
Autonomie 123 miles soit 197 km,

ça c'est ce qu'ils disent sur la plaquette commerciale, mais pour de vrai, quelle va être l'autonomie ?
=> Tesla Model Y Propulsion  11/2023
=> VW ID.3 Life Max 58 kWh 10/2024

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Re : Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #32 le: 19 novembre 2011 à 23:22:36 »
Ben faut quand meme qu'ils casent les batteries quelque part..C'est deja un exploit que le coffre soit conservé.
C'est vrai mais du coup la Jazz perd une grande partie de sa polyvalence légendaire. Bon, on va pas non plus être difficile : au final on obtient le même genre de modularité qu'une française. :laugh:
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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #33 le: 01 décembre 2011 à 20:53:32 »
Preview: 2013 Honda Fit EV/Plug-In Hybrid

Motegi, Japan • Honda is set to introduce a new plug-in hybrid and an all-electric version of the Fit. The two are part of an exercise that falls under the company’s Earth Dreams Technology umbrella. Both will be launched in the United States next year. At this point, Honda Canada is still evaluating the viability of bringing one or both to Canada. Put my vote in the bring box!

The new plug-in hybrid uses an entirely new drivetrain — a gasoline-powered engine that is teamed with not one but two electric motors. This is a significant move that vaults Honda into the full-on hybrid league. As such, the plug-in hybrid can run on electric power, a combination of the gasoline and electric power sources or on the gasoline engine alone.

The new 2.0-litre Atkinson-cycle engine uses direct injection along with i-VTEC and variable cam phasing. The combination boosts torque and horsepower considerably while reducing fuel consumption by five per cent compared with the current 1.5L engine used in the Civic Hybrid.

As it stands, the gasoline engine produces 134 horsepower and 111 pound-feet of torque (although one should expect slightly better numbers in the production car). The main electric motor chips in with another 161 hp and 221 lb-ft of torque. The second electric motor plays the role of a generator.

Where this system differs from others is that the plug-in hybrid is designed to run on the electricity stored in the six-kilowatt/hour battery — which requires 1.5 hours to recharge using 220 volts — for the first 24 kilometres of the drive. When it’s depleted, the gasoline engine kicks in and drives the generator, which then provides the electricity consumed by the main electric motor.

At highway speeds, the plug-in decouples the electric side and runs on the gasoline engine alone. The interesting part is that, in each case, the motor and engine drive the wheels directly as there is no multi-speed gearbox.

It sounds complicated, but the system is remarkably seamless in the manner in which it operates. Launch is strong thanks to the motor’s low-end torque, and the delivery of power remains linear through the mid-range. Push on a little harder and the gasoline engine fires up and keeps things rolling along nicely.

The test drive of the new hybrid system was conducted in the current Accord sedan — which model will see the production version of the plug-in hybrid system is still up in the air (although my money says Accord).

Outwardly, the Honda Fit EV looks (graphics aside) exactly like its gasoline-powered sibling. In fact, it is only when climbing behind the wheel does one find the first big difference — step-in height is taller because the car has been raised to accommodate the 20-kWh main battery beneath the floor, where it is protected as well as provides a lower centre of gravity. Recharging the battery is done through an onboard charger. The 6.6-kW unit is capable of fully recharging the battery in three hours when using a 220-volt outlet. The downside is the 18 hours it takes to accomplish the same with a regular 110-volt outlet.

In lieu of the 1.5L four-cylinder engine, the EV adopts a derivative of the electric motor that currently sees duty in the fuel cell-powered Clarity. In this instance, it delivers 123 hp and 189 lb-ft of torque. The output is such that the Fit EV enjoys the same sort of acceleration as its regular compactsized counterpart equipped a 2.0L gasoline engine — credit the early arrival of the torque and the fact it stays with the program through the mid-range and on to the top end.

The Fit EV has the potential of delivering a city driving range of 195 km and a highway rating of 150 km. The difference in the distances is due to the lack of regenerative braking when the Fit is driven at a constant speed.

However, Honda is up front and admits that these are ideal distances. As such it takes the ideal and multiplies it by 0.7 to arrive at a real-world number. The multiplier takes into account the power needed to drive the electric air conditioner and power steering, provide heat in winter and supply the power requirements for everything from the radio to the wipers and heated seats. In the end, the Fit EV can provide 125 km of everyday real-world fun.

The EV also features a three-mode drive system similar to the one found in the CR-Z. In economy mode the throttle is much softer (actually too soft for most situations). The caveat to this is that if the distance to empty is getting tight, selecting the eco mode might just be the difference between getting home and not.Selecting the sport mode sharpens things appreciably, but it does so at the expense of driving range (it reduces the driving distance by up to 25% when compared with the economy mode). As such, normal mode is the best, as it balances the desire for performance with the need for a usable driving range.

As for the rest of it, the EV is every bit a Fit. It does not suffer because of the additional mass added by the battery, nor is there any compromise in the utility aspects.

The all-too-brief test drives proved both plug-in hybrid and Fit EV are road ready. Both offer surprising performance and have a ton to offer in terms of reducing the toll the automobile places on the planet.
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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #34 le: 01 décembre 2011 à 22:29:07 »
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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #35 le: 16 avril 2012 à 19:46:58 »
Honda's Low Carbon Hatch and Smart Home

SMART HOME: All part of Honda's plan to monitor and ease a family's whole carbon footprint and not just that of their car. The Honda city electric vehicle shown could easily be an electric Jazz or a plug-in hybrid.


Japanese car maker Honda has been developing conventional plug-in and fuel-cell electric vehicles (EVs) for years. However, as well as merely swapping petrol power for electricity, Honda has also looked at how the power for its EVs is generated in the first place.

To demonstrate this, the company has even built a proposed future home to show how electric power for every part of a typical family's needs can impose less and less of an agenda on its neighbours and on the national power grid.

On the grounds of its Twin Ring Motegi racing and test track northeast of Tokyo, Honda has built what it calls its Smart Home, which is all part of a residential and transport management system that powers and manages the energy of the home. It represents the most effective way to live within one's energy means that I have seen.

The Smart Home's roof, on the southern, most effective sun-catching side in Japan, is covered with solar panels that replace the usual silicon-based photovoltaic setup with a copper, indium, gallium and selenium material.

Honda says its photovoltaic layer is one-80th the thickness of a typical monocrystaline silicon version, and while its overall energy conversion efficiency is just a little less than that of silicon, it converts more wavelengths of light into electricity.

The advantage of this is an ability to operate in low sunlight and shade more efficiently than conventional systems. Thus winter conditions are less of a problem.

A computer-controlled system, called the Smart E-Mix Manager, helps direct current into or out of all the devices that need it, to the most efficient end.

The Smart Home also includes a natural-gas, propane or even petrol-powered "cogeneration system" that uses a single- cylinder engine to produce 1kW of electricity and up to 2.5kW of recoverable heat energy for hot water and home heating.

A 2kW-hour lead-acid battery is also used to store surplus energy, and charge the electric vehicle.

The Smart Home is still in development and Honda intends to add additional features and amenities to it, such as independent electricity production in the event of a natural disaster.

Honda already has a system that uses solar cells of about the expanse of a typical garage roof to charge its new all-electric Jazz.

The system stores energy sufficiently well so that the car can be fully charged by morning, and if during the day, the charger is full any extra energy can be put into the national grid system and/ or directed back into the household.

The Jazz could have been designed from the start to use electric power, with its fuel tank mounted under the front seats and creating huge expanses of storage and passenger volume when compared with other B-segment hatchbacks.

The Jazz EV swaps its petrol engine for a 92kW electric motor, while the fuel tank is replaced with a lithium-ion battery that Honda says will give a range of about 190 kilometres. A special onboard charger setup allows the Jazz to reach a full charge in about three hours from a 240v system.

Slowing down and braking helps charge the car too, through the same regeneration methods already used by other electric car makers.

The battery cells and electric power unit dovetail elegantly with the car as a whole, although the battery pack does eliminate the under-squab flexibility of the Jazz's famous "magic" rear seat.

Also, changes had to be made to the car's rear suspension to accommodate its new method of propulsion.

This is no bad thing, as instead of the petrol car's fairly ordinary torsion-beam setup, it uses a more sophisticated multi-link arrangement.

As a result, the EV car rides so much better than the stock Jazz, and displays the kind of crisp turn-in and well-sorted body control that the petrol car cannot.

It is remarkably good fun, with a level of steering feeling - and not just for an electric system - that amazed me the moment I took the car through its first test-track corner.

Using a three-mode drive system, as in the CR-Z hybrid, the Jazz's throttle pedal can be primed to imbue three distinct responses from the almost silent drivetrain.

Sport allows the Jazz EV to launch off the line as if there's no tomorrow, along with a tell-tale yelp of briefly spinning rubber.

Switched into Econ mode, it's as if you've gone into slow motion by mistake. It probably preserves the battery a tad, and it offers slightly better range, so you may need to commute in this mode.

However, my favourite drive setting was Normal, which is quick enough for the Jazz to stay ahead of traffic, while showing a less alarming depletion of energy resources on the car's dash display graphic than the Sport setting does.

I have driven a few electric vehicles now - ground-up designs as well as factory and home-converted petrol cars - and while you could say the Jazz EV is one of the latter, albeit in a corporate kind of way, it is simply the most fun and convincing car of this type I've had my hands on.

True, they will have to do something about the car's range, and I will miss those clever theatre-like fold-up rear-seat squabs, but, my word, the car feels so right in every other area.

It's not beyond imagining a Jazz EV like this living with its family unit, say 50km or less from work.

It would have little effect on the grid or your power bill, but would provide as much fun or more than a conventional car, plus a pleasingly smug feeling that you won't be getting from our fossil- fuelled machines.

We won't be able to buy the Jazz EV just yet.

In Japan and in California, Oregon and some yet to be finalised East Coast states, about 1100 examples of the Jazz EV, which is also known as the Fit EV, will be available on lease for about $NZ480 a month.

That sounds like a lot for a small car, but this isn't just a small car. It proves that using electric cars can be fun and that you don't necessarily need forests of wind vanes and several flooded valleys to cope with charging them.





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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #36 le: 18 avril 2012 à 09:51:46 »
Sympa ce look  surtout à l'avant ,à l'arrière c'est plus discutable.
Sympa l'appli  pour  le téléphone.

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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #38 le: 31 août 2012 à 17:50:17 »
La Honda Fit électrique se teste au Japon
Honda entame une nouvelle phase de test de sa technologie électrique, avec l’arrivée sur le marché japonais de la Fit électrique. Un contact prudent réservé aux flottes et avec des quantités limitées. Avant un passage à plus grande échelle pour la prochaine génération de Fit / Jazz.

Après les Etats-Unis, la Fit (ou Jazz) dans sa déclinaison électrique aborde son marché national. Un marché sur lequel Honda n’a strictement aucune ambition commerciale réelle. Le terme de commercialisation abrite ici, comme aux Etats-Unis plus tôt dans l’année, la création d’une flotte de test avec des véhicules proposés en location aux agences gouvernementales et aux entreprises, sur une durée de deux ans. Et avec un nombre de véhicules estimé à 200. Le prix est inversement proportionnel au nombre d’unités : 4 millions de yens, soit un peu plus de 40.000€.

La Fit électrique reçoit une batterie lithium-ion Toshiba de 20 kWh. Grâce à quoi Honda revendique une autonomie de 225 km en cycle JC08, profitant au passage de l’expérience acquise sur le système de propulsion des véhicules à pile à combustible. Le temps de charge standard est annoncé à 6 heures, et seulement 20 minutes en charge rapide.
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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #39 le: 31 août 2012 à 18:55:59 »
N'empeche meme si elle n'est pas "concue pour" des le depart comme la zoe de renault, la jazz eV me plait plus que la renault !!

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Re : Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #40 le: 31 août 2012 à 18:57:59 »
N'empeche meme si elle n'est pas "concue pour" des le depart comme la zoe de renault, la jazz eV me plait plus que la renault !!
j'avais justement lu l'inverse....
et je préfère aussi de loin la Jazz...
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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #41 le: 31 août 2012 à 19:13:13 »
L'inverse ? La zoe est un vehicule qui a l'instar de la leaf est une pure electrique . C'est pas le cas de la jazz EV visiblement.

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Re : Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #42 le: 31 août 2012 à 19:43:16 »
L'inverse ? La zoe est un vehicule qui a l'instar de la leaf est une pure electrique . C'est pas le cas de la jazz EV visiblement.
ba si
http://www.hondanews.info/news/en/auto/4120831eng

j'ai lu (je ne sais plus où) qu'à la base la Jazz a été devellopé en l'EV & hybride....
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Re : Honda Fit/Jazz EV (Electrique)
« Réponse #43 le: 04 octobre 2012 à 22:34:07 »
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« Réponse #44 le: 05 octobre 2012 à 07:02:20 »
Belle demonstration que cette Jazz EV..Dommage qu'elle soit trop chere quoi...et pas dispo en Europe !